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Nutmeg Investment Review: Five Years Investing with Nutmeg

This Nutmeg investment review shares our personal experience of investing with this digital wealth manager for five years. We have kept the original review of our Nutmeg investments from 2013 and updated this in 2017 and 2018.

Nutmeg investment review 2013

Regular readers will recall that, having disposed of our consumer debt, we have been per-occupied by how to invest money.  At the moment we have no particular aim and just want somewhere to store money while thinking about serious investment opportunities.

We found Nutmeg and conducted a Nutmeg investment review in February 2013.  So we have been trying it to see how it works.

Nutmeg is a platform where you set up a fund – there is no real limit to the number of funds but the initial investment per fund must be at least £1000.  You set the level of risk for each fund on a 10 point scale, your timescale and hand over your cash.  It seems simple – and it is.

The general idea is that money from each fund goes into a few common pots according to the fund profile.  Twice a month, these pots will be invested, rebalanced, etc.  Rather than invest in individual stocks, Nutmeg trades in Exchange Traded Funds (ETFs) which are more liquid and have minimum transaction charges.  So instead of thousands of individual portfolios being handled, Nutmeg work with relatively few and (hopefully) this enables them to give more attention to them.  After all, most of us have pretty much the same requirements – somewhere reasonably safe to store our money.  If we want absolute safety, we would leave it in a bank (well, perhaps ‘absolute’ is no longer appropriate these days).  But we are prepared to take a small risk.

To us amateurs it looked the business and conversations with Nutmeg were very helpful in understanding the ins and outs of the procedure.

(Note: You can find the latest update of our Nutmeg investment review to this post further down.)

So we took the plunge and added first £1000 then a further £3000 before the end of the last tax year.  Since then we have added a further £8000.  These were put into an ISA – a tax free wrapper.  We set a 5 year time frame and a risk level of 7.

Previously people had to choose between an execution-only service – you choose what to buy and the broker carries out the deal, trousering a large sum for this almost automatic task – or you hand it all over to someone to ‘manage’ it for you, again costing the earth.  There are ‘in-between’ systems where you get suggestions and either follow them or not but all this seems to be too complex unless you are going to drill into every suggestion to see how well it stacks up.

As I wrote recently, stockbrokers have got themselves a bad name for excessive charges and inconvenience.  Nutmeg’s charges are simple and transparent – between 0.3% and 1% is all they charge to manage your portfolio. (Please note that there is a fund cost of 0.19% and 0.1% market spread cost you’d have to account for when calculating your costs.)

It seems we are not alone in our thinking.  Economist John Kay has also invested quite substantially, as this piece from City Wire noted.  He commented that people were looking for better and cheaper intermediation – the process that brokers and the like provide.

So for a total of £12000 invested, how has it done?

I downloaded the daily outcomes since the beginning of April.  Of course these are all over the place but I wanted a sensible comparison.  The website just gives a percentage gain over the investment, which isn’t very useful – the current ‘profit’ is 1.57% but in reality, (a) it has been invested over a lot less than a year and (b) the funds have been added progressively.

The obvious comparison is the annualised rate of return – for any day’s outcome, what is the effective annual interest rate?  These is shown in the figure at the top of this post.

The solid line shows the straight percentage return on investment against the date.  In the early days, the ROI dipped down to -30% before rising to over 30%.  This early volatility is to be expected – whatever the variation, factoring it up to an annualised number will amplify the changes.   Eventually it settled down to a range from 4.4% to 9.5%.  There appears to be an approximately monthly period on the values – which presumably is because of the regular investment cycle.

However, new money is held as cash pending the investment cycle so a longer term trend should be slightly higher.  Allowing 10 days for the investments to be made (a minute BoE level interest is paid on cash), the annualised return over the past month changes to between 4.9% and 11%, shown by the dashed line.  The initial ROIs are much more volatile simply because they are considered over many fewer days but they settle down to be very close – but slightly higher.

If the most recent returns carry on and we make no further investment, then we should have increased our £12,000 by £478 or £527 respectively by the end of this year.  Not startling but rather better than leaving it in the bank.

This is broadly what was expected – and substantially more than available from ordinary cash ISAs.  It includes the management fee which is 1% – currently £26.23 plus £5.25 VAT.  There are no further fees and as we increase our investments, these will drop down to 0.3%.


We did have a little problem to start with trying to add money but that was in substantial part because we were overseas at the time on a poor connection.  Then we set up a payment system so we can direct money from our bank account and that worked OK but at the moment if you have more than one fund, the target fund cannot be specified when the money is sent – you need to login to allocate the money.


Nutmeg is a simple and elegant approach and does not rip you off.  Once our roof is done and paid for (and possibly solar panels if we can afford it) we will use Nutmeg for passive investment pending some really good ideas to build our serious nest egg.

We have added an Excel spreadsheet tool that contains our present figures to the Tools page – go play with it!

Nutmeg investment review – Update March 2017

We have not updated this Nutmeg review of our investments for some-time now and given that it is March and many of you are looking to open or move their stock and shares ISAs we felt it is time.

First things first. After we were confident that our Nutmeg stocks and shares ISA is not going to lose us our money – we are as prone to ‘loss aversion’ as the next person – we opened an account for Maria as well. So currently, we have two Nutmeg stocks and shares ISAs: John’s is called ‘Mortgage payment’ and Maria’s is known as ‘Freedom Fund’. (This is just a reflection of our different personalities.

Our pots have grown substantially since their modest beginning but before we get into that let me update you on some changes Nutmeg have introduced.

Nutmeg review: Important changes

Nutmeg have been changing things at the margin since their inception. Here we draw your attention to three changes that are important to keep in mind and that affect your investments.

#1. Nutmeg investment reduced their fee

Nutmeg used to charge 1% fee on portfolios up to £20,000 (and gradually reducing the fee after that). While this didn’t sound too bad when compared to the fees – obvious and hidden – investors pay for actively managed mutual funds, this was still a tad below par when compared to what the cheaper index funds charge.

Several months back Nutmeg reduced its fee to 0.75% for up to £100,000 portfolios (and I’d expect this to go even lower over the next year or so). Doesn’t seem much but in the long run this can have a very large effect on the size of your portfolio.

#2. Nutmeg invest your money once a week

Another important in the long run change is that Nutmeg started investing (and re-balancing) your portfolio once a week. This, I find, offers much more flexibility and potentially better returns. This is because when you top up your account – or after a dividend – the cash doesn’t knock about in the account doing nothing.

#3. Nutmeg offer pensions (SIPPs)

When we first started investing in Nutmeg they didn’t offer pensions. Now they offer SIPPs (Self Invested Personal Pension). As is customary with Nutmeg, the fees are kept low – 0.75% up to £100,000 and 0.35% after that. Also, there is a minimum amount you’d need to open a SIPP which at the moment is £5,000.

How did our Nutmeg stocks and shares ISAs do?

Okay. We all know that the last couple of years have been a volatile time and the stock market has been going up and down as a yo-yo. Naturally, it has been a volatile time for all stocks and shares investments including ISAs.

Last February, for instance, thing got so trying that even I was tempted to sell out and keep our money in gold coins, deeply buried under the mattress. I didn’t succumb and I even wrote to tell you why I still love Nutmeg enough to stay with them. And you won’t even believe how pleased I am that I stayed. But we’ll get there.

Our little Nutmeg experiment

Here are the profiles of our Nutmeg portfolios. At the moment, mine (Maria) is set on risk level 8 and John’s is on risk level 7. Until about three months ago, my portfolio was set on risk level 7 and John’s on risk level 5.

(The squiggly lighter green line is the interest and the darker green one is the contribution.)

Maria’s ISA

Nutmeg investment

John’s ISA

Nutmeg investment

Now, let’s compare the two profiles. Here is what transpires:

  • Both portfolios are returning well; or at least much better than any other ISA around. Let’s just say that since the beginning of 2017 John’s portfolio has returned 2.55% and mine has returned 3.52%. (I think that this difference is because John’s was still on risk setting 5 (lower proportion of equities) during January and part of February; and this was a time when equities did very well.)
  • Interestingly, John’s portfolio is the one that was more stable in the time of volatility. Over its life-time, John’s portfolio fell below the contribution once in June 2013 (-3.08%). You can see that my portfolio dipped below contribution several times and the largest fall was in February 2016 (-4.36).
  • Our portfolios recovered every time. In fact, most of the time they run on healthy profit.

Where is the experiment, you may ask?

Well, it seems that over time a Nutmeg portfolio on a lower risk setting is more stable than a portfolio on a higher risk level. Still, in the long run a portfolio at a higher risk level can be expected to yield higher returns.

How to set the risk level?

Readers have been asking me how to set the risk level on their Nutmeg portfolio. There are two answers to this questions.

First, Nutmeg have a questionnaire that will help you understand your risk tolerance level. You can use this to set the risk level on your portfolio.

Second, I’d say that the risk level you set would depend on:

  • Your time horizon. Set your risk level low if you foresee using the funds in your Nutmeg account pretty soon (in the next year or so). If, on the other hand, you don’t foresee an urgent need to use the money for over ten years, you should set it to a higher level of risk – remember that this affect the ‘swings’ of your portfolio but the long-term tendency is up.
  • How you cope with your fear of loss. If of loss is perfectly natural and we all share it. Some of us are better at managing our fear of loss. If you can’t cope with fear of loss have your risk level set lower – because your portfolio will be more stable, you would be unlikely to get out of it when you shouldn’t (generally, people who are not good with controlling their fear of loss, sell when the market is down; the rest of us, live through it and live to see another upturn.)

Maxing out our Nutmeg ISAs

This year, John and I have maxed out our Nutmeg ISAs. (ISA allowance for 2016-2017 is £15,240.) We intend to do this next year as well and see how it goes after that.

Do you know why we are doing this?

There are two reasons for that. One, we are reasonably confident that Nutmeg portfolios are sufficiently well managed (and re-balanced) to generate a good profit in the long run. Ans two, ISA is easily the most tax efficient investment instrument in the UK. You invest after tax income, true; in return you don’t pay capital gains or income tax when you draw down.

Nutmeg Investment Review – March 2018

This is our third update of our Nutmeg review. After presenting the changes (if any) to Nutmeg, we summarise our investing experience.

Nutmeg review: what’s new?

There haven’t been any significant changes to Nutmeg over the last year; none that will make dramatic difference to your investments, anyway.

Nutmeg have worked a lot on the usability and friendliness of the site and it is getting there. There are still minor things that annoy the lay user like me (one of these is the light background and light letters when you scroll down some menus) but I can generally live with it.

How did our stocks and shares Nutmeg ISAs do?

This year we maxed our ISAs again (the tax free, ISA allowance is currently £20,000 per person). I’m also happy to report that a proportion of our contribution was made after the drop of the stock market; let’s hope this will pay off in the future.

Here is how much our Nutmeg investments returned in 2017.

Return (%)

Stocks and shares Nutmeg ISA (Maria)


Stocks and shares Nutmeg ISA (John)



Not too shabby, you’d agree. As to the difference in return you notice, this is a result of the different levels of risk we had specified: mine was at 8 (this means roughly 80%-85% invested in equities and 20-15% in bonds and other classes) and John’s at 7 (this portfolio is 70-75% equities). Yep, the difference is two percent return.

Why do I still put money in other stocks and shares ISAs and investments?

I like two things in life: experimenting and variety. Hence, we also have:

  • ISAs (one for me and one for John) with Vanguard. These have not been doing as spectacularly as our Nutmeg investment did, but we opened the account in late 2017 and the going has been hard since then. I’ll let you know how this one goes next year.
  • General investment account with Scalable Capital. This is doing as well as could be expected given the volatility of the market over the last couple of months.

Oh, and I forgot.

Nutmeg investing is not costly compared to more traditional forms of investing; e.g. using investment brokers. Still, it works out at approximately 0.95% for investments under £100,000 (this included the fund management charges and the market spread costs). Doesn’t sound much to you?

Let me put it another way: 11% of my total Nutmeg investment return has gone to cover management and other costs. Now you see why I’ve been looking around.

Vanguard costs are lower (though this depends on the funds one selects) but the disadvantage is that nobody rebalances your portfolio to offset risks – it is all up to you.

Let’s the experiment continue.


So far, our experience shows that Nutmeg investing is well worth it. This is particularly appropriate for investors who don’t have the knowledge, competence and time to get into individual stocks investing or investors who want peace of mind.


22 thoughts on “Nutmeg Investment Review: Five Years Investing with Nutmeg”

    • The investment is in a basket of ETFs that is rebalanced and adjusted every few weeks, not work that I would be competent to carry out. I don’t think I could go directy to BNY Mellon with on $1500 or so and I suspect the costs that way would be similar as well as trading across currencies.

      The advantage of going via Nutmeg is that we can have pretty passive investing that is very liquid and it specifically caters for the small guy without the sort of rip-off seen elsewhere. There are other similar systems that bundle up ETFs and I expect they will give similar returns – Ez-ISA is one that I know about. Maybe I will open an ISA with them at some time so we can have a comparison.

      It may seem to be lazy investing – and that is the whole point of course – but we are taking a risk. The theory that savings interest should reflect general inflation is wrong and itself inflationary. If anything it should reflect general GDP growth so anything above that (in the UK, minute) value is a risk. I think Nutmeg offers that and we are happy to leave what relatively small sums we have at the moment with them.

      • Interesting proposition ticks boxes re cost and transparency but the risk rated portfolios are riskier than they seem

        For example the portfolio rated 6 has 60% in equities and 40% in bonds this does not mean that the portfolio has 60% of the risk of equities because the returns of this portfolio are 90% correlated with equities so the senistivity is more equity like.

        So risk profile 7 will be even more equity like whiuch means if you have little tolerance for 2008 like volatility then need to lower the equity exposure. On the other hand if you want more equity exposure why bother with intermeidate risk profiles and go for 100% equity. The risk ratings and sesnitivity does nit stack up neither does the diversification into other asset classes via funds that hold equities of companies that e.g have an exposure to mining.

        This is the other drawback ie there is little appreciation of risk management. Hence unclear whether on a risk adjusted basis the returns are justifed. Bear in mind one could access ETFs directly as they are listed on the stockmarket. Any discretionary manager has to demsontrate value and so far there is nit enbough on the risk management side to justify it . Also why does Nutmeg not use tracker funds some of whiuch are a lot cheaper and so is it missing a trick?

        The costs are attractive but they are missing a trick in using cheaper trackers and also how do they control the costs of monthly rebalancing? They cross trades internally so are they doing this for free? Usually whe one buys ETFs on the exchange there is a bid offer spread and commission to pay.

        • Thanks for dropping by @NaiveInvestor.

          As long as the risk related in the index it doesn’t matter. Like temperature, risk is just an arbitrary scale (although people have tried to construct riskometers to explain orders of magnitude to the masses!). Just the bigger the risk, the bigger the expected volatility. Anyway it is to be expected that in the early days, this fund will see quite a bit of volatility – it has a 5 year perspective.

          At the moment our risk level 7 portfolio is running at an annualised return on investment of about 10% (9.7% or 10.3% depending on whether you allow for the delay between putting funds in and them actually being invested, the first corresponding to our actual ROI and the second to the fund if we had put the money in at the last moment). It has been in negative territory over the last couple of months – early September saw it as low as -2.34%. It appears to have a periodicity of about 3 months and is probably on the top side at the moment.

          Risk is just a judgement at the end of the day – some better than others unless you are a clairvoyant. Risk-weighted is no more than that either so risk weighted funds are convergent just as regression is towards the mean. It just avoids the extremes but as long as you want to take a ‘risk’ the extremes are the place to be.

          Our portfolio is 42% bonds (corporate and developed government), 46% developed equities, 2% emerging equities, 4% property/infrastructure and 6% cash (the list of actual funds shows only 2.6% cash but there may be cash in some of the funds). Monthly rebalancing is done within the 0.9% (or lower) charge – some may be internal of course.

          If you want to invest in individual ETFs that’s fine – look at Rplan for example and you have over 2000 sources from indices to hedge funds. That may enable you to have more hands on control but we have been looking for somewhere to store money without too much hassle!

  1. “Our apologies to our North American readers – Uncle Sam won’t allow you to use it. Maybe Nutmeg will open a US system – after all they use BNY Mellon to do the investment!”

    They should apologise to us: they have Betterment which does the same thing and has even lower charges than Nutmeg!

  2. Thanks – interesting.

    I’m totally new to trading and Nutmeg aren’t happy to give any advice. Since I started with them the market has been in decline, so fair enough, I’ve been losing money. I see you added rather large chunks to fund your account. At the moment I feel like I’ve plugging holes with a few hundred here and there (after an initial lump sum). Would it suit their way of trading better if I paid larger amount in regularly, or do you think it doesn’t matter? Is putting a couple of hundred a waste of money?


    • Hi seb. Was in a similar position as most of the nutmeg investors here. Then it is struck me, no one out there has a magic bullet for long or short term growth! To be in control of your money go invest directly in the open market. Do your own research. Find the industry and the trading instrument you like (bonds, ETFs, stocks etc) and make your own portfolio. Now what one needs is a platform. And there’s plenty of rippers in the U.K. market. So whilst I’m using a cheap one myself I won’t say their name here. But you search and you’ll find there are execution-only platforms out there which charge less than 2 quid a trade! You do your own research and be fully in control. I personally don’t trust anyone else with my hard earned money to grow it. Period. There’s no rocket science out there that a beginner investor can’t understand. Knowledge will set you free.

  3. Hi, after reading loads of reviews and comments about various investment opportunities , I have decided to dip my tow in the water and give Nutmeg ago with what we consider to be a decent amount in the form of my current cash ISA. Nutmeg will then convert it for me into an investment ISA . I have just completed the transfer paperwork and will leave it with them simply see how it goes. Hopefully it will do better than the current 1.95% on offer for cash ISA’s. My wife and I have just retired this last month,I sold my business, and my wife retired from the education sector both aged just under 60 so we class it as early retirement. So we have pensions ,Isa’s , savings etc to work with. Not having a clue what to do with our funds we decided to discuss our financial situation with two financial advisers(not from Nutmeg) one independent, and one from a large well advertised company that crops up in discussions a lot on the internet. To be honest after discussing things with them , we were shocked at the fees they wanted for investing our moneys for us , both came at around £7k+ and a considerable % on top per year depending on the level of fund management we required from them . It took an absolute age to get and actual amount/approx figure from them ,apparently charge(fees & %) all depended on their involvement once they have invested our money. We had to choose the amount of risk we felt we wanted ,the mount we were willing to invest ,they would then invest funds us. If we wanted them to keep any eye on our investment they also want a higher % . I might be totally wrong but! Isn’t this exactly what Nutmeg have offered to do for free ? Well free maybe isn’t correct ,the way I read it , a basic 0.75% per year and 0.19% charges . Plus funds are covered up to 85k with the FSA . Only down side I can see is they don’t do joint accounts? shame as this is a joint decision.

    • @Alan: Yep, you are correct. It is only that Nutmeg manage portfolio’s using algorithms and this makes the whole thing so much cheaper. I have friends that still have ISAs and other investments with broker firms and pay so much fees that it is really not worth it.

  4. I lost 12% over 6 months. Despite only choosing a ‘moderate’ risk option.
    The general news bulletin they issue did not reflect that much loss even in a high risk portfolio.
    The only solution they gave was to ‘hold tight’
    a very bad experience.

    • @Kevin: Hi Kevin and welcome :). I’m sorry to hear that you’ve lost 12% of you Nutmeg portfolio. My portfolio lost value as well though not as much (mine is set on rist 7). I don’t blame the Nutmeg team though: my friends who are with other companies, or even the ones who invest in index funds, lost between 10 and 20% – it is the wobble in the stock market. Reading about what is happening in China my guess is that we’ll see a bit longer downturn before it all starts going up again. Next, the Nutmeg team are right – best is not to do anything – they’ll change your investments around and your portfolio is going to start recovering. I’m considering putting more cash in mine (logic being that the team can buy more cheap shares). In brief, don’t loose heart; I know it feels really bad but if you don’t secumb it will recover and go higher up.

  5. I have been with them a few years since I read about them starting up in the paper, and have lost about -12%. I got an email from them a few days back saying they had beaten the competition and their customers were 30% up since the start. Not with my money they’re not.

    • @MrV: I am just writing a post on why I am staying with the, (and my portfolio is down as well). At the moment all is down and if I were to venture an opinion, I’d say that they’ll recover. Also think about it this way: what are the alternatives at the moment? I have self managed portfolio that is 15% down since last December. Index funds are down. The only thing that is still profitable amongst my investments are the investments in businesses. So, I’m staying and we’ll see what happens. (Oh, and I’ve been buying more shares. Now is the time.)

  6. 1% is not cheap for a passive investment approach. ETFs are available on nearly all U.K. platforms.

    Doing a small amount of research you could construct a portfolio of ETFs and/or Investment Trusts that cost a lot less than 1%. The other thing is bonds are hideously overvalued having strongly performed over the last decade. Against a backdrop of increasing interest rates in developed countries there is a fear that bonds are now entering bubble territory.

    I use Hargreaves Lansdown, they are not the cheapest but you can access world class investment trusts for a maximum charge of £220 per annum. The base charge is 0.45% per annum. I would rather have my equity investments actively managed by Scottish Mortgage, who have outperformed global stock market indices for decades.

  7. I too have been a Nutmeg investor for several years now and I am very happy with the service. It is so easy to view and track your investments and the risk assessment makes it easy to assess the type of investment you want to go for.

    I would move more funds into this if only the log on security was a bit more robust – email and password is a bit feeble in this day and age – a second ‘secret word’ logon requirement as most banks used would give peace of mind

  8. Hi Maria – Quick point about your comment on Vanguard: “the disadvantage is that nobody rebalances your portfolio to offset risks – it is all up to you”. Yes, Vanguard do offer funds where you can pick and choose your own portfolio, but they also offer a range of globally diversified LifeStrategy funds which rebalance for you, keeping to a fixed proportion of equities vs bonds. So for example Vanguard LifeStrategy 80% is 80% equity-based trackers and 20% bond trackers. Total cost, when investing via Vanguard, is 0.22% for LifeStrategy and 0.15% for the platform, so 0.37% pa, which is distinctly lower than most robo advisers.

    • @Faith: Faith, I know about the LifeStrategy funds that Vanguard offers. This are, however, static and are the static and are the equivalent of Nutmeg’s ‘fixed allocation portfolios’. I think that the great thing about Nutmeg are their managed portfolio’s because they re-balance these depending on what is going on with stock markets, the economy etc.

  9. Maria

    To clarify, did you contribute to the Nutmeg Stocks and Shares ISA in 2017/18, and also open a Vanguard Stocks and Shares ISA in the same tax year? My understanding is that you can only contribute to one Stocks & Shares ISA in a tax year.

    As with Sm’s comment, I select ETFs myself and my platform has a maximum platform fee for shares/ETFs, so its cheaper than Nutmeg. I liked the Nutmeg idea, but thought their charges too high, even though better value than many managed services. With my platform I cap my annual costs, but of course miss out on Nutmeg’s expertise in rebalancing.

    • @GHDorset: You are absolutely correct – according to the rules, you can contribute to only one ISA of the same type (you can split your allowance between Cash, Investment and Innovative Finance ISAs). Thing is that I never thought there may be such a rule (and still think it make very little sense). Had to close the Vanguard ISA and top up Nutmeg (managed on time).

      You see, with Nutmeg I have selected to swap a slightly higher fee (still rather low, though) for an entirely hands off approach (I do have a managed portfolio). It is a very personal choice, though.


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